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Steel or Syn cable?
« on: February 02, 2014, 08:11:13 AM »
New stealth mount winch setups sealed the deal, getting a 2014 grand cherokee overland summit.

What are the pro's and cons to different cables?? I don't want the steal cable rusting but worry about a synthetic line getting moldy/rotting. Is it worth the extra 100 dollars?
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Re: Steel or Syn cable?
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2014, 08:18:57 AM »
Go syn line, I won't go back.

Lighter, it floats, safer on energy dispersion because it drops down when it breaks instead of flying back at your new rig, easier to run, easier to quickly store if you expect to be using it later in the day and wanna wrap it around your bumper. all around it's worth it ease of use. adding in the additional safety matters it's the best upgrade I did to my winch.
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Re: Steel or Syn cable?
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2014, 08:55:31 AM »
draw back to the synthetic is if you keep it in the elements it wont last long water/sand/light kill them

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Re: Steel or Syn cable?
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2014, 09:04:28 AM »
draw back to the synthetic is if you keep it in the elements it wont last long water/sand/light kill them

And yet, this rope came from the Fishing/Marine industry ? Go for it. Weight alone will seal the deal.Keep it covered until needed.
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Re: Steel or Syn cable?
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2014, 09:08:23 AM »
I've never used anything but the steel cable. I think if you understand it and how to be safe with it, then it's a perfectly viable option. You got to respect all safety issues with winching no matter what equipment you have. Plus replacement cables can be had on the cheap with everyone else 'upgrading' to synthetic.
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Re: Steel or Syn cable?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2014, 09:11:38 AM »
Be a real man and pull STEEL!!!!

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Re: Steel or Syn cable?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2014, 10:28:16 AM »
draw back to the synthetic is if you keep it in the elements it wont last long water/sand/light kill them

And yet, this rope came from the Fishing/Marine industry ? Go for it. Weight alone will seal the deal.Keep it covered until needed.

The issue is there will be no way to truly cover it. The entire winch sets behind the stock bumper enclosed in a new bolt-in subframe mount. Water/snow/road salt/debris can still get down on to it through the main grill. Not a huge issue to pull and clean after a day of use, but if the steel cable will rust anyway its a losing battle.

this is the setup.


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Re: Steel or Syn cable?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2014, 11:05:27 AM »
Many of the synthetic cable are UV stable now. For weight and safety go synthetic. for cost and durability go steel.
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Re: Steel or Syn cable?
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2014, 04:53:27 PM »
Go with steel. Know how to use it. I've never seen steel break. I've seen syn. Break 2 times and read on many more. Of coarse when syn was broke it was the users fault I'm sure
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Re: Steel or Syn cable?
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2014, 09:06:49 AM »
UV won't be an issue in your mount location.  If you are worried about dirt, simply  unspool it periodically and rinse with water. Consider it routine maintenance, which you should do to steel cable as well, for inspection purposes. Biggest issue with synthetic line is generally misuse, typically involving abrasion. In either case both lines should be replaced periodically.  Personally,  I've used synthetic lines on my XJ, JKU, TJ, and LJ.  I wouldn't consider going back, but as always, do your research and make your own choice!
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Re: Steel or Syn cable?
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2014, 09:30:55 AM »
Weight is also a consideration.  I know a few folks who have added winches to their WK2s but they also added the lift kits too. Not sure how the weight of the winch and cable effect the front suspension since a 2014 Overland Summit has a very basic  air suspension.  You might get more rake.

Only time I got stuck in mud in my 2012 WK2 was at herding trial. My friend went and got his tractor and pulled me out since I have the ORA I package with the front tow hooks.  With all the rain, ice, and melting snow and even with my winter tires I just park my WK2 and walk with my collie in 2 weeks when we have to work a herding trial there.

Stock Michelin Latitudes with 18" wheels do okay on crummy farm roads and across fields.  I wouldnt want to make same trips on the 20" wheels and Goodyears.

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Re: Steel or Syn cable?
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2014, 10:39:55 AM »
Yeah...I refuse to call it a WK2. At 55k I'm writing WL on the sticker.

Weight shouldn't be a big issue, looking at a Warm V8000S I believe. With a steel cable it really wouldn't be much more then the brush guard on my WJ. Air suspension works off height sensors so in theory it should auto-correct - atleast it does in the rear for cargo weight.

Really love the stealth design of it all, but honestly I'd need a winch maybe 1-2 times a year. Durability is more important then price or weight
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Re: Steel or Syn cable?
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2014, 10:51:44 AM »
Personally I would stay with steel.  IMO easier, not as much upkeep and safe if you know what you are doing with it.
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Re: Steel or Syn cable?
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2014, 11:42:22 AM »
Really love the stealth design of it all, but honestly I'd need a winch maybe 1-2 times a year. Durability is more important then price or weight
Think this answers your question right here. If you don't have a need to spend more for the synthetic, the steel cable will work well for you.
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Re: Steel or Syn cable?
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2014, 11:03:19 AM »
The only advantage steel has is the price. Only old timers (who cant keep up) think steel is "better".

 

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